DJ Sundog - from the toot-lab is a user on toot-lab.reclaim.technology. You can follow them or interact with them if you have an account anywhere in the fediverse.

one of the biggest "go screw" messages we could ever deliver to rampant venture capitalism is to slowly but surely move towards owning only things we can rebuild and repair nigh indefinitely at low cost of ownership over lifetime.

@djsundog low TCO as radical praxis hmm hmm i like it

but also these things usually have a high upfront/capital cost

how do we mitigate that?!

@bea @djsundog I think at least for a certain generation of Europeans they accepted the (higher) upfront cost of equipment in return for it lasting longer and being repairable (was the case well into the 1980s). its possible one issue isn't even merely the evils of capitalism, but that SMT electronics was bloody difficult for service techs to work with without access to strong magnifiers and specialised tools (should be less of an issue today as you can buy the tools from electronics suppliers)

@vfrmedia @djsundog those who could afford to do so accepted it, is what i mean...

i'm less concerned with palatability than just straight up ability

@bea @djsundog it certainly was the case over here a lot of AV equipment was only available to better off people or you got handed down stuff from older generations (e.g audio equipment with valves on the output stages was in use well into the 1970s and even 1980s especially in places like schools (all my junior schools had either Philips or Grundig valve radios, which even today are sought after by collectors..)

@vfrmedia @djsundog aye

and it's not impossible to mitigate these things it's just a matter of figuring out the what and how of it like

do we do this through mutual aid? people chip in to distribute the up front cost and and the tech gets acquired as funds become available?

the conventional ways of doin stuff individually i feel like breaks down if we wanna scale these things

DJ Sundog - from the toot-lab @djsundog

@bea @vfrmedia so like massdrop, but for raw materials/equipment and as a non-profit, with the option to choose to donate x% of a given order back into a pool distributed on a needs basis maybe. I'd sign up for that.

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@djsundog @bea I had to look up what massdrop was as it isn't as much of a thing here in the UK. Perhaps not a surprise TBH not only does it appear to be used to sell niche/high priced items, you are almost certain to get stung for import duty on them if they are made outside the EU (this isn't so heavy on components/assemblies especially compared to finished products)