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random: we should put colored dots on outlets and switches in homes, and map those same colored dots to the circuit breaker box, allowing for easy circuit identification both after a tripped breaker and when deciding where to plug things in based on their load.

@djsundog you accomplish the same thing by shorting the breakers with a bit of wire with less cognitive overhead

@djsundog adding: Or shapes (square, circle, star) in glow in the dark sticker. I've had to reset too many a power breaker in a no-light situation. Also - mandatory reading lights over the breaker box.

@drskrzyk_ this is even better than colors as it presents fewer issues for folk with differing color vision 👍

@djsundog Yeah, that's another reason for sure. I was also thinking of that Archer bomb defusing theme for some reason..

(1:06 - for the specific bit, but the whole thing is gold)
youtube.com/watch?v=dNYMQpcqsc

@drskrzyk_ @djsundog We use the phonetic alphabets for our QA sites and I have a PDF printed out that has a quote from Archer about mancy verses nancy on it. :)

@djsundog@toot-lab.reclaim.technology another option is to label them textually with CB numbers as standard in commercial buildings, and/or keep a labelled plan in the electrical distribution board.

@djsundog commerciak buildings do something like this, ex. this is 3rd floor, circuit B, outlet 4

@djsundog I was just noticing how outlets are labeled in hospitals, and I’d like to figure out how to work something like that into my house. I already need to redo the list inside the breaker box, because the previous owners weren’t really clear on the concept of numbering or labeling things in order.

@djsundog I just had to use the breakers for the first time last week, had to replace a light socket with a bad switch. If one were to label outlets it would also be helpful to label switches and/or fixtures that share a circuit as well.

@djsundog the outlets at work have Roman numerals on them which i was told correspond to circuits

@sconlan @djsundog That sounds like a less conspicuous method than some other labeling schemes, which would be good for a house where you don’t want to break up the decor with long descriptive labels. Hmm... :thonking:

@grey this is me placing two 1500w space heaters on the same circuit in two different rooms ;)

@djsundog I've definitely been tripping the breakers this winter doing essentially just that

@djsundog One of the first things we did when we moved into our home was to plug a portable stereo/boombox into every outlet and flip breakers until the music went off, then annotate the outlet and breaker-id. For light-fixtures it took two of us to map each of them, but that outlet-to-breaker map has saved countless hours of hassle since. We keep one copy taped beside the breaker box, the other in our file-cabinet folder of home-related things.

@djsundog Would be infinitely easier than just flipping breakers and yelling "DID THAT DO IT?"

@djsundog At work, they used a sharpie to write down the port numbers for the phone/network jacks and just letter for the outlets for that reason.

About half of my house has the same thing for that reason. It is very nice because I don't mind a little text on the plate and it makes my life so much easier.

@djsundog as someone who was an electrician for three years, I cosign this so hard.

@djsundog meanwhile in the UK: you know what circuit breaker you are on simply by the floor of the building

most UK houses have a ring-main and 16A breaker per floor.

@steph @djsundog 16 A per floor seems a bit… underpowered tbh? unless i got my math wrong that’s gonna trigger if two people use their electric kettle at the same time

in the building i’m living in all outlets and light switches are labelled with the circuit they belong to

except some of the labels are wrong and the wiring is a complete mess. the two sockets in my bathroom are both labelled 4f4 (which is the same circuit as the ones in my room), but one of them actually belongs to 4f3 (the same circuit as the sockets in the room opposite of mine, and also the door to the kitchen for some reason)

@lis @djsundog I looked it up and i remembered wrong: 30A per ringmain is the standard
@lis @djsundog also lol i remember tripping the breaker with your hairdryer in the bathroom somehow (at least i think thats what i did)

guess that must have been the other circuit
@steph @djsundog i did once too, that's how i noticed the door is on the same circuit. it's supposed to stay open if you open it wide enough, and close on fire alarm or power loss, that's been broken for ages and no one has bothered to fix it so far
@steph @djsundog every building i've lived in so far has one 16 A breaker per room or couple of rooms, and high-power appliances like stoves usually have their own
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