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Let's make 2020 the year we stop teaching children how to be employable and instead teach children how to be healthy people

@djsundog Was absolutely baffled the other day in a conversation with younguns of two consecutive generations about internships.

Never occurred to me to do one in college. Apparently, this is seen as a way to avoid having to attend classes. Which strikes me as rather counter to the whole point of enrolling in college.

This seemed quaintly outdated to them. The whole purpose of college, in their understanding, is to get employment. No one goes to college to learn things anymore, I was assured.

@beadsland @djsundog To be fair to them, those sounds like realistic expectations. Not of how things should be but of how they are.

@danielcassidy @djsundog I've never been part of that world. Admittedly, it has made for a challenging life, but I honestly don't have the mental frame to imagine living a life according to such expectations.

It seems definitively unreal to me.

But then, how things are is how we make them. If we make how things are conform to realistic expectations, then that is the reality we can expect.

@beadsland I don’t think young people have much influence over how educational institutions are run, otherwise they would no doubt all be abolished tomorrow and replaced by something sane and healthy.

@danielcassidy They have influence over whether they, personally, choose to attend classes or use institutional outs to avoid having to attend classes.

I'm not so old that internships weren't a thing when I went to college. It simply wasn't an obvious choice (indeed, it wasn't even on my radar) in the way that it seems to be for those that have gone to college after me.

Granted, colleges may be promoting internships more heavily, but in the end it is the student who chooses work over learning.

@danielcassidy By comparison, I worked two jobs in order to afford to take a max load of classes. The idea of working a job in order to avoid going to class is thus, as I said, baffling.

@beadsland Context for my comments: my personal experience is that classes are a tick-box exercise with next to zero learning, and that all of my actual learning has been done outside formal education. Despite that I went through the formal education system to degree level because I *had to* to tick the boxes to get a foot in the door to get a job to be allowed to live indoors and eat regularly.
I sincerely hope things are different in other contexts than the one I grew up in but I doubt it.

@danielcassidy I too took a formal degree in order to have paperwork to back up what I had already learned on my own. I nonetheless found that a liberal arts education exposes one to more than enough subjects to keep feeding a hunger to learn. But then, I chose my school based on how many departments it had.

OTOH, that degree didn't keep me living indoors. I've been homeless repeatedly. Tick boxes proved useless. Far more valuable: having learned to touch type as a child — a foot in many doors.

@djsundog God, that'd be nice. I'm in! (I have no children but I'll contribute!)

@djsundog I didn't even learn either of these things in 20 years of school! I like this plan

@djsundog "When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life." - John Lennon

@djsundog I agree, also how to think and learn rather than how to fit into boxes and pass exams.

@djsundog "Healthy" is kinda ableist, maybe we teach them to be happy instead? ^^

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