@jerry totally - it's the same beef I have with music streaming services: as much as I love having access to such a large collection, it's value is massively diminished by not being able to share parts of it with others without a third party's permission.

@djsundog @jerry It's a strong upside to DRM-free, voluntary-payment eBooks. Or even involuntary payment DRM-free eBooks, since then you can just delete your copy.

@freakazoid @djsundog yeah. Almost all of my books are from Safari, which is even worse.

@jerry @djsundog I have an absolute "no DRM" policy these days. I buy paper books sometimes, but otherwise if there's no DRM-free version I just pirate it.

@freakazoid @jerry piracy for principle is the most delicious piracy around - keep up the good work ;)

@djsundog @jerry yup, why pay for less? It makes no sense to me. You also have access to a large collection of records at the record store, and CDs are cheap and you can rip them and retain the CD indefinitely.

Also playing music on my phone is simply not an option in a lot of places for technical reasons or because we don’t want to hear the inevitable ads or phone ringing or other phone interiptions.

Records are good! Also CDs! Fuck it, casette tapes are superior to DRMed mp3s.

@jerry @djsundog there are still DRM-free stuff around, and authors who specifically request Amazon et al for their e-books to be DRM-free.

So, if you want to, you can... ;)

Technically it's not the same as giving a book, but then again so is not reading an e-book.

@eloisa @djsundog true. For a while, I was buying books from Nostarch, who is DRM free. But I found it to be far (far) more economical to have a subscription to Safari. Basically any tech book I want for ~$250/year. Downside is that they go away when I cancel my subscription

@jerry @djsundog yeah, that's a big nope for me. With that money I can buy myself a couple of months of physio. Which I need more than books. 😔

@eloisa @djsundog fair enough - different needs/different priorities

@Gotterdammerung I sincerely hope they each do in kind

@djsundog unlikely but I know they read that book and have been in my debt for years